something which may indicate his line of thouhgt (from 11'57 on) though: Pour ce qui concerne l'interim, je vous dis hein, c'est pas une personne que je vois, mais moi je vois plutot une structure ( As the interim-period is concerned, I tell you, I don't see a person, I rather see a structure ). In the sentences before and after this statement, he says in so many words that he considers the transition-period with an appointed president more or less as a waste of time and a hindrance to solving the real problem in the North. This could implicate that he wants to go for a president-less' interim-period, during which the junta would be heading the Malian state. In such a scenario, Sanogo as the head of this junta, would de facto be in power but would not assume the title of president.
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